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Musical wind instrument with inner horn assembly
2010-03-08
AbstractA musical instrument which may be used to play a complete major scale without coordinated mouth and finger operations has a single mouthpiece, an outer tubing assembly or horn connected to the mouthpiece and terminating in a bell, and an inner horn assembly mounted within the outer horn. The inner horn assembly includes at least one inner horn having an open, upstream end located inside the outer horn and either an open or a closed downstream end adjacent the belled end of the outer horn. If open, the downstream end of the inner horn is either belled or tubular. The inner horn assembly preferably has four straight inner horns, each of which is closed at its distal end by an end cap, each inner horn being tuned to a pitch which is required to produce a required scale frequency of the outer horn and having a length substantially equal to one-fourth the wave length of the pitch to which it is tuned. A method of determining the resonant pitch of each inner horn is also included.Claims

The embodiments of the invention in which an exclusive property or privilege is claimed are defined as follows:

1. A musical instrument which may be used to play a scale without coordinated mouth and finger operations comprising a single mouthpiece, an outer horn connected to the mouthpiece and terminating in a bell, and an inner horn assembly mounted on said outer horn at its belled end, said inner horn assembly comprising at least one inner horn having an open, upstream end located inside said outer horn and tuned to produce approximately the "Ti", "Mi", "La#", or "Do#" frequency of the outer horn.

2. The musical instrument of claim 1 wherein said inner horn has a closed distal end.

3. The musical instrument of claim 1 wherein said inner horn comprises a straight tube.

4. The musical instrument of claim 1 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises plural inner horns of mutually different lengths.

5. The musical instrument of claim 4 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises two inner horns.

6. The musical instrument of claim 5 wherein one of said inner horns is tuned to produce approximately the "Mi" frequency of the outer horn and the other inner horn is tuned to produce approximately one of the "Ti", "La#", or "Do#" frequencies of the outer horn.

7. The musical instrument of claim 4 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises three inner horns.

8. The musical instrument of claim 7 wherein one of said inner horns is tuned to produce approximately the "Mi" frequency of the outer horn and the other inner horns are tuned respectively, to produce approximately one of the "Ti", "La#", or "Do#" frequencies of the outer horn.

9. The musical instrument of claim 4 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises four inner horns.

10. The musical instrument of claim 9 wherein said inner horns are tuned, respectively, to produce approximately the "Ti", "Mi", "La#" and "Do#" frequencies of the outer horn

11. The musical instrument of claim 10 wherein each of said inner horns has a closed distal end.

12. The musical instrument of claim 10 wherein each of said inner horns comprises a straight tube.

13. An attachment for a musical horn having a belled end for converting said horn to a musical instrument which may be used to play a scale without coordinated mouth and finger operations, said attachment comprising a support member adopted to be clipped to the bell of the horn, and an inner horn assembly mounted on said support member, said inner horn assembly comprising at least one inner horn having an open, upstream end located inside said outer horn and tuned to produce approximately the "Ti", "Mi", "La#", or "Do#" frequency of the outer horn.

14. The musical instrument of claim 13 wherein said inner horn has a closed distal end.

15. The musical instrument of claim 13 wherein said inner horn comprises a straight tube.

16. The musical instrument of claim 13 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises plural inner horns of mutually different lengths.

17. The musical instrument of claim 16 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises two inner horns.

18. The musical instrument of claim 17 wherein one of said inner horns is tuned to produce approximately the "Mi" frequency of the outer horn and the other inner horn is tuned to produce approximately one of the "Ti", "La#", or "Do#" frequencies of the outer horn.

19. The musical instrument of claim 16 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises three inner horns.

20. The musical instrument of claim 19 wherein one of said inner horns is tuned to produce approximately the "Mi" frequency of the outer horn and the other inner horns are tuned respectively, to produce approximately one of the "Ti", "La#", or "Do#" frequencies of the outer horn.

21. The musical instrument of claim 16 wherein said inner horn assembly comprises four inner horns.

22. The musical instrument of claim 21 wherein said inner horns are tuned, respectively, to produce approximately the "Ti", "Mi", "La#" and "Do#" frequencies of the outer horn.

23. The musical instrument of claim 22 wherein each of said inner horns has a closed distal end.

24. The musical instrument of claim 23 wherein each of said inner horns comprises a straight tube.

25. A method for manufacturing an inner horn assembly for insertion into the belled end of an outer horn or an existing musical instrument to enable the production of one or more tones that the outer horn or instrument is unable to produce without changing the effective air column length of the outer horn, comprising the steps of constructing an inner horn having an effective air column length selected so that it resonates at substantially a frequency computed in accordance with the formula

IH=3DF-9OH1 OH2)

where IH is the frequency at which the inner horn should resonate, DF is the desired frequency of a tone to be added, OH1 is the frequency of the harmonic of the outer horn next higher than the desired frequency of the tone to be added, and OH2 is the frequency of the harmonic of the outer horn next lower than the desired frequency of the tone to be added, and mounting said inner horn to a mounting member.Description

INCORPORATION BY REFERENCE

The disclosure of my aforementioned application Ser. No. 07/561,524, and U.S. Pat. No. 5,133,238, is hereby incorporated by reference herein. The patent is hereinafter referred to as "the '238 patent".

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

This invention relates broadly to wind operated musical instruments and particularly to those musical instruments which are resonant in response to vibrating air columns induced therein to produce tones of various different pitches.

In accordance with the invention disclosed in the '238 patent, a musical instrument is provided that comprises a single mouthpiece, a hollow, outer tubing assembly or horn connected to the mouthpiece and terminating in a bell, and an inner horn assembly comprising an inner horn mounted within the outer tubing assembly at its belled end. The inner horn has an open, upstream end located inside the outer horn and either an open or a closed downstream end projecting outwardly from the belled end of the outer horn. If open, the downstream end of the inner horn could be belled or tubular. In the preferred embodiment disclosed in the '238 patent, the inner horn is in the form of a straight tube which is closed at its outer end by a cap.

It is known that sound vibrations are created at an inlet or mouthpiece of a wind instrument are channeled through an elongated tube whose effective length is configured, that is, lengthened or shortened, to create resonance therein so as to amplify the sound vibrations. The frequencies of the vibrations at which a wind instrument is resonant depend upon the length of the instrument, that is, the length of the tube between its air inlet and its air outlet. This length determines, but is not quite equal to, the effective length of the air column in which the sound waves are formed that, at certain frequencies, cause the instrument to resonate and thereby amplify the sound output of the instrument. To resonate at any given frequency, a conventional instrument must have an effective air column equal in length to an integral multiple of one-half of the wave length of that frequency. This forms the basis for the so-called "harmonic series" of notes that can be resonant and amplified by an instrument having an air column of a given effective length, which series may be expressed by the series of fractions 1/2, 2/2, 3/2, 4/2 . . . n/2, wherein the numerator represents the number of one-half waves formed in the air column.

The common bugle has a single fixed length and is, therefore, capable of resonating only at frequencies within a single harmonic series. It cannot be used to produce a complete major or minor scale. In order to produce major and minor scales and also complete chromatic scales, most wind instruments are provided with mechanisms to change the tube and effective air column Lengths. Such mechanisms usually comprise telescoping slides, openable ports, or depressible or rotatable valve keys to provide openings to differing combinations of tubing sections. Because of the ability to change the effective air column lengths, the instruments can be used to produce multiple sets of harmonic series and thereby to produce complete chromatic scales.

The frequency, and therefore the pitch, of vibration of a wind instrument depends upon the frequency of the input to the instrument. Typically, a wind instrument, including its mouthpiece, is so constructed that one may produce frequencies beginning with the first or second harmonic number and, depending upon the skill of the musician, extending upwardly through several harmonic numbers. One may change the inlet openings so that the frequencies produced tend to be in the higher harmonic ranges. For example, an instrument made by equipping a bass horn with a conventional trumpet mouthpiece may not be usable to play the lower harmonics but could be used for playing higher harmonics than can be obtained using a conventional bass horn mouthpiece. This is because the bass horn mouthpiece is designed to enable one to vibrate the lips at lower frequencies than possible with a trumpet mouthpiece, at the expense of higher frequencies available using a trumpet mouthpiece.

As those skilled in the art are aware, the number of scale notes between the members of a harmonic series decreases as the harmonic number increases. If the harmonic number is raised high enough, an instrument will play adjacent half tone notes. (At even higher harmonics, an instrument would play quarter tones.) This phenomena has been applied since the days of Bach to the manufacture of "natural horns" which, as with bugles, may not have mechanisms to change the length of the instrument tubes but, because they have relatively small mouthpieces in relation to the lengths of their tubes, are readily played in the higher harmonic ranges, from about 5/2 or 6/2 to about 20/2, and can be used to play imperfect scales. (Some of the natural horns may have had one or two small ports used to adjust off-pitch tones.)

Natural horns have the advantage of being playable without manipulation of tube length-changing mechanisms but they are not in general use. This is probably due, at least in part, to their inability to satisfactorily produce a complete scale. A problem with musical wind instruments capable of playing complete scales is that they require considerable skill, patience, and practice to play. Not only must musicians be dexterous with their fingers to reconfigure the instrument tubes, they must also memorize all of the proper positions and coordinate them with their lip movements.

An object of this invention is to provide a musical wind instrument which may be used to play more notes than possible with a conventional instrument having a fixed tube length but which is simpler to play than conventional wind instruments having mechanisms for changing their tube lengths. In a particular aspect of this invention, an object is to provide a musical wind instrument which may be used to play a complete major scale without coordinated mouth and finger operations.

In another aspect of this invention, an object is t...
Musical tone apparatus
2010-02-06
Abstract text
Sounds in different frequency range are generated from the rear, top and/or front face of the musical tone apparatus, sounds are generated and spread in all directions around the musical tone apparatus, and the tones sound very realistically acoustic.Vibration of the sound board does not resonate, tones generated from the sound board are not changed unintentionally, and tones of real acoustic musical instruments are realized.Vibration from the sound board is not directly transferred to the whole musical tone apparatus, by means of not allowing the sound board to touch the body of the musical tone apparatus and of pressing and fixing the soundboard to the attachment component with the thickness of the attachment component compressed.Claims
1. A musical tone apparatus comprising:a keyboard for instructing generation of plural tones in different pitches from high to low ranges;a back sound generator which generates sounds backward of the keyboard;upper sound generators which generate sounds upward of the keyboard in the different frequency range from that of the said back sound generator; andfore sound generators which generate sounds forward of the keyboard in the different frequency range fro...
Music instrument which generates a rhythm EKG
2010-02-24
AbstractA musical instrument including an actuator which generates a plurality of signals in response to being played by a user; an audio synthesizer which generates audio tones in response to control signals; a memory storing a musical score for the actuator; a video display unit; and a digital processing means controlling the audio synthesizer and the video display unit. The stored musical score includes a sequence of lead notes each of which has an associated time stamp to identify a time at which it is supposed to be played in the musical score. The digital processing means is programmed to map the plurality of signals to a corresponding subsequence of lead notes from among the sequence of lead notes; it is programmed to produce a sequence of control signals from the subsequence of lead notes for causing the synthesizer to generate sounds representing the subsequence of lead notes; it is programmed to display on the video display unit a trace indicating when the lead notes of the sequence of lead notes are supposed to be played by the user as a function of time; and it is programmed to display relative to that trace an indicator marking where the user is supposed to be within the musical score as a function of an elapsed real time.Claims

What is claimed is:

1. A virtual musical instrument comprising:

an actuator generating an actuation signal in response to being activated by a user;

an audio synthesizer;

a memory storing a sequence of note structures representing a musical score for said actuator, each of the note structures of said sequence of note structures having associated therewith an indicator identifying a corresponding musical sound and having an associated time identifying when that musical sound is supposed to be played relative to a beginning time;

a timer resource;

a video display unit;

a video playback component for storing and playing back through said video display unit a video track associated with said stored musical score; and

a digital processor receiving said signal from said actuator and generating a control signal therefrom,

said digital processor programmed to use said timer resource to determine a time at which said actuation signal occurred,

said digital processor programmed to select one of the note structures of the sequence of note structures that has an associated time that corresponds to the time at which said activation signal occurred, and

said digital processor programmed to use the selected note structure to generate said control signal, wherein said control signal causes said synthesizer to generate the corresponding musical sound identified by the selected note structure, and

wherein said digital processor is also programmed to start at the same time both said timer and playback of the video track on said video playback component so that the musical score is synchronized with the playback of said video track.

2. The virtual music instrument of claim 1 further comprising an audio playback component for storing and playing back an audio track associated with said stored musical score, and wherein said digital processing means is programmer to start both said timer resource and said audio playback component at the same time so that the musical score is synchronized with the playback of said audio track.

3. The virtual music instrument of claim 2 wherein said audio track omits a music track, said omitted music track being represented by the musical score for said actuator.

4. The virtual music instrument of claim 2 wherein both the audio and video playback component comprise a CD-ROM player.

5. The virtual music instrument of claim wherein said digital processor is programmed to display on said video display unit a trace of markers as a function of time, wherein each of the markers within said trace of markers indicates a time at which the user is supposed to cause said actuator to generate said actuation signal in order to cause the audio synthesizer to play the musical sound for a corresponding one of the sequence of note structures of said musical score, said trace of markers representing a period of time extending from before an actual elapsed time until after the actual elapsed time, the actual elapsed time being measured from a start of the musical score.

6. The virtual music instrument of claim 5 wherein said digital processor is also programmed to display on said video display unit an indicator marking a location of the actual elapsed time within said trace of markers and thereby indicating where the user is presently supposed to be within the musical score.

7. The virtual musical instrument of claim 6 wherein said digital processor is also programmed to generate on said video display unit a second trace next to said trace of markers indicating when the user actually caused said actuator to generate actuation signals and thereby indicating when the notes of said sequence of notes are actually played by said audio synthesizer relative to when they are supposed to be played as indicated by said trace of markers.

8. A control program tangibly stored on a digital storage medium for use with a virtual musical instrument that includes an actuator for generating a sequence of actuation signals in response to a corresponding sequence of activations of the actuator by a user, an audio component, a video playback component, a video display unit, and a digital processor receiving said sequence of actuation signals from said actuator and generating a corresponding sequence of control signals therefrom, and a digital storage device storing a sequence of note structures representing a musical score, wherein the digital storage medium is readable by the digital processor, and wherein the video playback component contains a pre-recorded video track associated with the musical score, said control program being configured to operate the virtual musical instrument to perform the functions of:

establishing a timer resource;

in response to receiving a start signal from the user, simultaneously starting the timer resource and playback of the pre-recorded video track on the video component so as to cause playback of the pre-recorded video track through the video display unit to be synchronized with the musical score; and

in response to receiving each actuation signal of said sequence of actuation signals,

(a) determining from the timer resource a time at which the received actuation signal occurred;

(b) selecting a corresponding one of the note structures in the sequence of note structures based on the time at which said received actuation occurred; and

(c) generating a control signal from the selected note structure, wherein the control signal causes the audio component to generate the musical sound corresponding to the selected note structure.

9. The control program of claim 8 wherein each of the note structures of the sequence of note structures has associated therewith an indicator identifying a corresponding musical sound and has an associated time identifying when that musical sound is supposed to be played relative to a beginning time, and wherein the function of selecting a corresponding one of the note structures is accomplished by selecting a note structure among the sequence of note structures having an associated time which corresponds to the time at which the activation signal occurred.

10. The control program of claim 9 wherein the control program is further configured to operate the virtual musical instrument to perform the functions of causing any particular one of the musical sounds corresponding with the note structures of the sequence of note structures to be played through the audio unit only if the user causes an actuation signal to occur at a time corresponding to the note structure to which that musical sound corresponds.

11. A digital storage medium having a control program stored thereon for use with a virtual musical instrument that includes an actuator for generating a sequence of actuation signals in response to a corresponding sequence of activations of the actuator by a user, an audio component, a video playback component, a video display unit, a digital processor receiving said sequence of actuation signals from said actuator and generating a corresponding sequence of control signals therefrom, and a digital storage device storing a sequence of note structures representing a musical score, wherein digital storage medium is readable by the digital processor and the video playback component contains a pre-recorded video track associated with the stored musical score, said control program comprising:

means for establishing a timer resource;

means for simultaneously starting, in response to receiving a start signal from the user, the timer resource and playback of the pre-recorded video track on the video component so as to cause playback of the pre-recorded video track through the video display unit to be synchronized with the musical score;

means for mapping the sequence of activation signals to a corresponding plurality of note structures from the sequence of note structures, wherein each of the note structures of the sequence of note structures has associated therewith an indicator identifying a corresponding musical sound and has an associated time identifying when that musical sound is supposed to be played relative to a beginning time, and wherein the mapping is based upon a correspondence between times at which the activation signals occurred and the times associated with the note structures of the sequence of note structures; and

means for causing the audio component to play the musical sounds associated with the plurality of note structures to which the sequence of activation signals is mapped.

12. A control program tangibly stored on a digital storage medium for use with a virtual musical instrument that includes an actuator for generating a sequence of actuation signals in response to a corresponding sequence of activations of the actuator by a user, an audio component, a digital processor receiving said sequence of actuation signals from said actuator and generating a corresponding sequence of control signals therefrom, and a digital storage device storing a sequence of note structures representing a musical score, wherein said digital storage medium is readable by the digital processor, said control program being configured to operate the virtual musical instrument to perform the functions of:

in response to receiving a start signal from the user, starting a timer resource; and

in response to receiving each actuation signal of said sequence of actuation signals,

(a) determining from the timer resource a time at which the received actuation signal occurred;

(b) selecting a corresponding one of the note structures in the sequence of note structures based on the time at which said received actuation occurred; and

(c) generating a control signal from the selected note structure, wherein the control signal causes the audio component to generate the musical sound corresponding to the selected note structure.

13. The control program of claim 12 wherein each of the note structures of the sequence of note structures has associated therewith an indicator identifying a corresponding musical sound and has an associated time identifying when that musical sound is supposed to be played relative to a beginning time, and wherein the function of selecting a corresponding one of the note structures is accomplished by selecting a note structure among the sequence of note structures having an associated time which corresponds to the time at which the activation signal occurred.

14. The control program of claim 13 wherein the control program is further configured to operate the virtual musical instrument to perform the functions of causing any particular one of the musical sounds corresponding with the note structures of the sequence of note structures to be played through the audio unit only if the user causes an actuation signal to occur at a time corresponding to the note structure to which that musical sound corresponds.Description

BACKGROUND OF THE INVENTION

The invention relates to microprocessor-assisted musical instruments.

As microprocessors penetrate further into the marketplace, more products are appearing that enable people who have no formal training in music to actually produce music like a trained musician. Some instruments and devices that are appearing store the musical score in digital form and play it back in response to input signals generated by the user when the instrument is played. Since the music is stored in the instrument, the user need not have the ability to create the required notes of the melody but need only have the ability to recreate the rhythm of the particular song or music being played. These instruments and devices are making music much more accessible to everybody.

Among the instruments that are available, there are a number of mechanical and electrical toy products that allow the player to step through the single tones of a melody. The simplest forms of this are little piano shaped toys that have one or a couple of keys which when depressed advance a melody by one note and sound the next tone in the melody which is encoded on a mechanical drum. The electrical version of this ability can be seen in some electronic keyboards that have a mode called "single key" play whereby a sequence of notes that the player has played and recorded on the keyboard can be "played" back by pushing the "single key play" button (on/off switch) sequentially with the rhythm of the single note melody. Each time the key is pressed, the next note in the melody is played.

There was an instrument called a "sequential drum" that behaved in a similar fashion. When the drum was struck a piezoelectric pickup created an on/off event which a computer registered and then used as a trigger to sound the next tone in a melodic note sequence.

There are also recordings that are made for a variety of music types where a single instrument or, more commonly, the vocal part of a song is omitted from the audio mix of an ensemble recording such as a rock band or orchestra. These recordings available on vinyl records, magnetic tape, and CDs have been the basis for the commercial products known as MusicMinusOne and for the very popular karoeke that originated in Japan.

SUMMARY OF THE INVENTION

In general, in one aspect, the invention features a virtual musical instrument including a multi-element actuator which generates a plurality of signals in response to being played by a user; an audio synthesizer which generates audio tones in response to control signals; a memory storing a musical score for the multi-element actuator; and a digital processor receiving the plurality of signals from the multi-element actuator and generating a first set of control signals therefrom. The musical score includes a sequence of lead notes and an associated sequence of harmony note arrays, each harmony note array of the sequence corresponding to a different one of the lead notes and containing zero, one or more harmony notes. The digital processor is programmed to identify from among the sequence of lead notes in the stored musical score a lead note which corresponds to a first one of the plurality of signals. It is programmed to map a set of the remainder of the plurality of signals to whatever harmony notes are associated with the selected lead note, if any. And it is programmed to produce the first set of control signals from the identified lead note and the harmony notes to which the signals of the plurality of signals are mapped, the first set of control signals causing the synthesizer to generate sounds representing the identified lead note and the mapped harmony notes.

Preferred embodiments include the following features. The multi-element actuator is an electronic mus...
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